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The other issue is “They’ve changed the rules again. The goalposts have moved again”. We know that the last few years have been change after change, but at the heart of the conversation is always: “The job is not what I thought it was going to be. I have become a survey checker”. The application comes in and they have to ask, “Have they done this survey? Have they ticked that box?” They have become survey checkers and box tickers, not place shapers and place makers. Many of them came in with high aspirations, believing that they could make those sorts of changes, but the job was not what they thought.