Member

On the topical point that the Minister mentioned, with the President of the French Republic being not so far away from us in this building—he probably is not any more, but he was—I think that the French Government find it quite irritating, when they are trying to work with the British Government on clamping down on this, that there are organisations from the United Kingdom that set themselves up in France and spend all their time trying to make it more difficult for the French Government to work with the British Government to stop people crossing the channel. I am not sure that we want to give a blanket immunity to all those people. Some of them are genuinely well-meaning humanitarians, but some of them are people who fundamentally do not agree that we should have border controls and sensible legal regimes. Yes, they do not charge for their services, but they are not actually doing good work. They are not doing work that is supported by the broad mass of the public. We may not want them swept up by these offences, but we should think about how we deter them from conducting what they do because it helps to facilitate this organised immigration crime, whether or not that is their intention.