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I then have a broader question to the noble Lord, Lord Alton, and the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, because I worry. Can they clarify how we avoid this question whereby we have to choose between the smugglers and the victims? It is really unhelpful if we only ever see people as victims. I am going to finish in a minute, so noble Lords can come back on me. If we see people only as victims of smugglers, there is always a danger that we deny their agency, and if there is one thing that really will get on the nerves of the British public, it is the feeling that people in this House have been duped in that way. Obviously, some people are playing the system. Just because they are doing so, by the way, does not mean that they are evil. I have every sympathy with the often young men who might be trying to pull a fast one to get here—it would be better than where they were coming from—but that is not the point, unless we are going to just give out British citizenship on the basis of guile and a bit of pluck and so on, is it?