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Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean (Lab)

Speaking in the House of Lords on 2 July 2025

Debate

NHS, Armed Forces and Civil Service Staff: Public Meetings

Contribution

My Lords, I was the general secretary of the Civil Service trade union, which was affiliated to the TUC, at the same time as the noble Lord, Lord Butler, was head of the Civil Service. In my experience, there are times when it is difficult to speak about what is going on among civil servants, but the great thing at the time was to have a dialogue going on with the noble Lord about how these issues could be addressed publicly and within the trade union. It is a question of common sense, dialogue and knowing where the red lines are. I believe that is still the case.

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