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Member
Speaking in the House of Lords on 25 June 2025
Debate
Public Authorities (Fraud, Error and Recovery) BillContribution
She then warns of the perils that this honesty would bring, saying that, from the perspective of the DWP, it would be concluded that the person under assessment “can do a familiar journey and engage with people”, which would be true by definition. On the risk of the viewer being inadvertently honest about going to the shops, Ms Anderson says, “You’ve got to be really careful. They’re tricky, tricky people, and I mean that. PIP will try to withhold points, so I’ve gotten better”, by which she means better at withholding information and pretending that she cannot go to the shops or interact with staff alone, when that is not in fact the case. I might add that “people” was not the word used in the video; your Lordships might be able to guess what was said instead.
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