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Lord Lee of Trafford (LD)

Speaking in the House of Lords on 21 May 2025

Debate

Armed Forces Recruitment

Contribution

My Lords, the Government inherited an MoD employing 63,000 civilians. Of course, many do vital and necessary work, but surely this is an absurd number, given that the Army itself is only 72,000 strong. Have the Government made any international comparisons in this area, and what plans do they have to tackle the bloated bureaucracy, particularly in procurement? The realised savings could then be diverted to improve pay and conditions at the sharp end, in our forces themselves. Perhaps the civilian excess could be drafted into the mooted Home Guard: I am sure there will be many aspiring Captain Mainwarings in their ranks.

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