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Member
Speaking in the House of Lords on 13 May 2025
Debate
Employment Rights BillContribution
I can go on with the research. Daniel Kahneman has shown that behaviour is shaped by framing. If disengagement is framed as safe, sanctioned or subsidised, it becomes the default under pressure. I go back to the Resolution Foundation’s report, as referenced by the noble Baroness, Lady O’Grady. What she did not mention is that when there is more generous statutory sick pay, there is more absence. In other countries, where they have day one rights, they have a reduced percentage rate of payment to ensure they balance that tension with people going off sick unnecessarily for reasons they do not need to use. Martin Seligman also talks about learned helplessness and warns that, when people face stress without agency or structure, they stop trying even when recovery is possible. Albert Bandura showed that belief in our ability to function is critical to doing so. I could go on and on. The evidence is clear that, if we demand nothing, we will get nothing.
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