Lord de Clifford (CB)

My Lords, I speak today in support of all the amendments in this group, particularly Amendments 12 and 26 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, and other Peers, and my own Amendments 14 and 27. I would have added my name to the noble Baroness’s amendments, but sadly I was a bit slow, and her popularity beat me. I remind the House of my registered interests as an owner of an SME and an employer. Both these sets of amendments seek to increase the limit in separate ways. As I have spoken about at both stages of the Bill, the proposal mainly impacts middle-income earners. If the Government were to accept the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, this would allow all basic rate taxpaying workers making regular contributions to salary sacrifice not to have to pay NIC on their contributions. Also, it would encourage and give flexibility for workers on different salaries to increase their pension contributions above the 5% of auto-enrolment without being penalised and having to pay NIC on these increased contributions. Auto-enrolment is such an easy way for employees to raise their pension contributions and show flexibility. I have seen in my own business that employees on a range of salaries from £30,000 to £50,000 per annum do increase and decrease their pension contributions depending on their current situation. This could be, for example, before starting a family or when they have a salary increase, small bonuses are paid, or they are moving closer to retirement. Accepting this limit will encourage people to save for their long-term retirement and give them flexibility in their contributions. I have resubmitted my amendment as a suggestion and a compromise between the Government’s limit of £2,000 and the proposed new limit of the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, of £5,000. My amendment seeks to increase the limit to £5,213.15 as it stands and is linked to the upper threshold of national insurance, at 5% of that amount. I asked the Minister in Committee if there was any basis to the £2,000 limit other than the researchers’ suggestion to employers in the research commissioned by HM Revenue & Customs on attitudes to salary sacrifice, released in January 2024. Having reviewed the research, it appears that £2,000 is an arbitrary figure, if in some way linked to the median salary. The researchers contacted only 51 employers, of whom only 41 offered salary sacrifice. I believe that the total number of employers who offer salary sacrifice is around 290,000. Surely, only 51 employers is not a significant sample on which to base such an important change to the tax and pension systems.