Karin Smyth

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Western. I thank colleagues for their kind remarks about my hon. Friend the Member for West Lancashire (Ashley Dalton). We will miss her. She has set a great example, not only by continuing while undergoing cancer treatment but, as hon. Members have said, by recognising that sometimes we need to look after ourselves and prioritise our constituents. No doubt she will be doing that very well, and I look forward to her contributions from the Back Benches. I congratulate the hon. Member for Carshalton and Wallington (Bobby Dean) on securing this important and timely debate. I hope that my name came up occasionally when he was perusing previous debates on this issue, because I am one of the few Members of Parliament over the past 10 years who has banged on quite a lot about capital. I am delighted to be the Minister, because the sound management of that capital is absolutely crucial to the provision of healthcare for all our constituents. I agree that it does not get enough airtime, and the hon. Gentleman made an excellent speech outlining most of the issues. We have heard a lot of contributions today, and I will try to do justice to this very wide-ranging debate. Let me remind hon. Members of the problem. I have with me Lord Darzi’s report, which said: “The NHS has been starved of capital and the capital budget was repeatedly raided to plug holes in day-to-day spending…Some £4.3 billion was raided from capital budgets between 2014-2015 and 2018-2019”. It said: “The result has been crumbling buildings” and “services were disrupted at 13 hospitals a day in 2022-2023. The backlog maintenance bill now stands at more than £11.6 billion”. The report also said that the NHS was “in the foothills” of the digital transformation that the rest of the country—indeed, the rest of the world—was undergoing. There was also a shortfall in capital investment. I kind of admire the hon. Member for Hinckley and Bosworth (Dr Evans) for defending that situation—it is a tough gig—but we all see what happened in our constituencies. I am very proud of the capital investment under the last Labour Government, and I will come back to PFI in a moment. Reversing that trend and repairing and rebuilding our healthcare estate is a vital part of our ambition to create an NHS fit for the future. That is why we are prioritising the estate to support that task. First, we are prioritising core and safety technology equipment and—this is an important measure introduced by the Chancellor—changing the rules on capital to stop capital-revenue transfer. We are also incentivising the system and streamlining the processes; the hon. Member for Hinckley and Bosworth tells us how terrible the processes were, but his party was in government. We have taken control and used Government to good effect to start streamlining those processes. Part of that is about moving towards making one team of NHS England and the Department of Health—I hope hon. Members will support us in that. We are also building the capacity and capability of the staff in order to develop and do the work we need them to do. That capacity has been completely depleted over the last 14 years. We have put a lot of information into the system to move things quickly, and I think we are all seeing the benefits of that in our constituencies. We will bring forward a capital plan in the spring to make all of that clearer for the system and for hon. Members.