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I do not know how many noble Lords remember Lord Mackay of Clashfern. For those of us who do, he was here, as I remember, until he was at least 94. Whenever he rose to speak, we all listened carefully, because he was a very sound and good constitutional expert. So, if the Government want to reduce the number of Peers in the House of Lords, they should go about it by, first, throwing out everybody who does not come more than, say, once a week or once a term, or whatever it is. There are a lot of people like that. People may be disqualified on other grounds, but I do think it is ageist to have people going out at 85 or whatever it is, and ageism will not do any more.