Member

I turn to Amendments 8 and 15, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Scriven, and Amendments 9 and 16, tabled by the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, and spoken to by the noble Baronesses, Lady Bennett, Lady Watkins and Lady Berridge. The noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, has spoken, not just today, very strongly—along with the noble Baroness, Lady Berridge—to press this point home about why parents are barely referred to. I know that the noble and learned Baroness knows that there is no intent to undermine the role of parents—in fact, far from it; perhaps I will address the general point and see where we get to. Of course, it is crucial to involve parents, guardians and those with parental responsibility in decisions around care and treatment. In the Bill there are multiple references to the need to involve any