Baroness Kramer (LD)

My Lords, I will make my comments brief. Like the Minister, I am a strong supporter of the mutual sector, but the values of many of our retail banks have sometimes sent them chasing profits when they should have been serving customers. Mutual societies at least argue that at their base there is a different ethos that makes them far more aware of the needs of both their members and the community. I would very much like to see a significant expansion of the mutual sector, particularly to try to deal with the many unmet needs in the financial services sector. However, I am a little uncertain about these two changes, although I am not going to oppose them. I think it is a good idea for organisations to refresh, and by removing a retirement age, there may be a temptation, particularly because people develop a certain personal loyalty to particular directors who have been there for a long time, or a hesitancy to refresh than we would have seen if there were a retirement age. Will the Minister comment on that because it is generally good practice? I understand that a hard and fast retirement age creates all kinds of ageism issues, but is there is going to be any kind of mechanism to encourage that look at refreshment from a corporate governance perspective? The other issue is having one signature rather than three. Again, I have some hesitancies here. In the modern era, it is so easy to provide a signature electronically that one wonders why it should be so desperately cumbersome. I am certain that most directors of mutual societies are people of great integrity and would never allow a falsified statement to go forward. Within financial services, however, we have all been disappointed from time to time by a sort of creeping abuse in one sector or another. I am just concerned that a very natural check may be removed by going from three signatures down to one.