Member

These cost-cutting government targets are a good thing. Targets can galvanise. That is the point that the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, made. They need to be clear and measurable, and the basic targets are measured anyway. These figures are available and we are clear what we mean by “deep poverty” and “living in poverty”. Those definitions are out there and have been out there. You can get on and understand them. At a high level, these could actually be very useful in just pressing forward. The Government, if this is what they want to do, ought to put some measurement in place, as other noble Lords have said.