Member

I turn to Amendment 450. I know that the noble Baroness, Lady Foster, has been a victim of terrorism and I was very moved by the comments of the noble Lord, Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown. The noble Lords, Lord Weir, Lord Bew and Lord Dodds, the last of whom I know is very close to this issue, expressed their view about the glorification of terrorism. I do not get away from that. Some noble Lords will know that I have sat in rooms with police widows in Northern Ireland, looked them in the face and talked about the issues they have faced with the murder of their loved ones. I have been to places such as Enniskillen and met victims of the bomb there. I have met people who, even at this date, have not found their loved ones and relatives who have disappeared. I have met people from all aspects of this, who have seen their loved ones murdered in loyalist or IRA violence. I know—not to the extent of the noble Baroness or the noble Lord, Lord McCrea—the impact of that and had to deal with it as a Minister in Northern Ireland. So I know the driving factor behind the noble Baroness’s amendment.