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The second is if the defendant acts to protect their own or someone else’s property; for example, if a person damages another person’s property while accessing the property to prevent a fire. Again, they are limited sections, but it does give reason to whether the person’s belief in those circumstances is reasonable or justified. It just needs to be honest. I do not doubt that noble Lords would think that the actions I described in those circumstances would be entirely within the realm of lawful excuse.