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Moreover, such training needs to come through much more promptly in our statistics; what you count is what you do. Also, given the variability of performance, the Prison Service should publish education and training data prison by prison, which I hope the Minister will reply to. My experience of retail is that there is a powerful incentive effect, with managers trying to outdo each other. Interestingly, private prisons have a better education and training record because they work to contract and lose out financially if they fail to deliver education.