Member

What we have in front of us at the moment are essentially two clear ideas. I signed the amendment from the noble and learned Lord, Lord Garnier, but equally I will support the amendment from the noble and learned Lord, Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd, because clearly we need to move forward and this Government have to understand that we are not going to give up. It is unbelievable that we are still talking about this. Has it been years—I have lost track—that we in this House have more or less agreed we have to do something, yet the Government’s intransigence has just shocked us all? I do not think we have a choice: if this amendment does not pass, or if it does, we will still persist, we will still keep raising it and we will still keep pushing the Government, because they are in the wrong.