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Member

Speaking in the House of Lords on 27 November 2025

Debate

Crime and Policing Bill

Contribution

I really feel I must say my final two points. One is that I spoke last Friday to engineers from a company that I will not name and I asked them about safety for chatbots. They said, “Yeah, you can train them for safety”. I said, “Who does and who doesn’t?”, and they said, “Well, this one does and this one doesn’t”. It is totally technically possible to do these things. We are not looking for a perfect world; we are looking for a world in which technology companies are treated the same as fridge companies, hoover companies or any other company, where they cannot put out a product that is known to be unsafe—where they have to prove the safety, not have us prove it is unsafe.

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