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Member

Speaking in the House of Lords on 11 November 2025

Debate

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Contribution

What we are doing, as we always do with regulation in this country, is creating a two-tier system where hard-working, law-abiding citizens—notably, retailers—do what they are told to the nth degree and suffer the consequences from the friction and costs therein, as do their clients. Then we run a parallel universe of illegitimacy, where people run freely, pay no tax and behave extremely badly. In many instances—I refer people to the BBC documentary—they employ illegal immigrants in terrible conditions and behave in such a fashion as to be reprehensible. So we have to be very careful about these types of legislation because of the damage they cause the economy and the signals they send. They nearly always end up driving the illegal market, as we have seen factually in Australia.

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