Hansard·Commons Chamber·Vol. 793

Topical Questions

Tuesday, 10 November 2026

66 contributions34 members

Contributions

  1. Mr Paul Foster (South Ribble) (Lab)Labour

    T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental responsibilities.

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  2. The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Alex Norris)Labour (Co-op)

    Since the last Justice orals, I have sworn my oath as Lord Chancellor to uphold the independence of the judiciary and mark the opening of the legal year. We continue to clear up the mess left by the previous Conservative Government as we build a modern justice system, delivering the fast and fair justice that victims deserve. Our landmark Courts and Tribunals Bill has had its Third Reading in this place and is progressing in the other place, and we continue our action for victims by rolling out specialist rape and sexual offence courts to improve their experience of the justice process. We are launching Respond, the latest phase of our Enough campaign, and we have announced legislation that will help thousands of young adults who lack mental capacity to benefit from their child trust fund savings. I had the honour of representing the UK at the United Nations General Assembly, reaffirming our commitment to the international rule of law. Let me also take this opportunity to congratulate the UK’s candidate for the International Court of Justice, Professor Dapo Akande, who has been elected to the Court; the UK is back on the world stage and I wish him well in his new role.

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  3. Mr FosterLabour

    Despite the Planning Inspectorate recommending refusal, a third prison is under construction at Ulnes Walton in my South Ribble constituency. Unfortunately, the local community has been hugely impacted by issues around access, highway safety and vehicle movements—the very reasons refusal was originally recommended. Will the Minister please meet me as a matter of urgency to discuss how we can develop solutions for the benefit of the Ulnes Walton community?

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  4. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    The importance of new prison places in this country has been well rehearsed over the last 45 minutes. Nevertheless, I believe strongly that we must be good neighbours, both in the operation of prisons and in their construction, and I also feel very strongly about our liability through our contractors. I believe that I am already planning to meet my hon. Friend on another important matter, and I will ensure that we talk about this point too, because I want to make sure that we are good neighbours with his constituents.

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  5. Mr SpeakerSpeaker

    I call the shadow Minister.

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  6. Dr Kieran Mullan (Bexhill and Battle) (Con)Conservative

    The ability of powerful men to exert control over and exploit women is again at the forefront of our minds. But it is not just rich and powerful men: we recently debated in this place a petition by Paris Shears, who campaigns against coercive and controlling behaviour. During the debate, the Minister refused to give Paris the common courtesy of explaining whether those convicted of coercive and controlling behaviour are eligible for Labour’s early release programme. Can the Justice Secretary show proper respect to Paris and other victims and at least answer that question now?

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  7. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    I am slightly surprised that the hon. Member has taken this tack. He will know that, alongside the announcements we made in the summer, we published precisely which offences were in scope and not in scope for the progression model, so all I can suggest is that he refers to that, as he could have done for the last six weeks.

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  8. Dr MullanConservative

    It is obvious that the Minister does not want to put on record and own up to the fact that those convicted of coercive and controlling behaviour are, according to our understanding, eligible for early release. [ Interruption. ] The Minister says from a sedentary position that I should read; I will pass it on to Paris that he feels she should have just read. The public want clarity from Ministers on these complex matters, and it is right for me to ask this question. How can the Minister justify releasing those convicted of coercive and controlling behaviour early when we know that perpetrators who go on to commit offences like rape often start out with lower offences, like common assault, coercive and controlling behaviour and grooming. We know the patterns that emerge over time. Surely we should tackle this at the first instance and not let these people out early.

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  9. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    I am slightly surprised that the hon. Gentleman thinks that making a commencement order for legislation in this place is not putting something on the record. I find that hard to understand. He asks how we got into this situation. I gently point him towards the hon. Member for West Suffolk (Nick Timothy), the Leader of the Opposition and the shadow Minister for policy development, the hon. Member for Harborough, Oadby and Wigston (Neil O’Brien), all of whom admitted that they did not build enough places. He talks about exemptions, but I note that their early release schemes have no exemptions.

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  10. Patrick Hurley (Southport) (Lab)Labour

    T2. Members across the House will remember the desperate prison capacity situation back in July 2024, when fewer than 100 prison places were left on the whole estate and the whole justice system was on the brink of collapse thanks to the shocking incompetence of the Conservative party. Will the Minister update the House on the progress made on fixing that Tory mess through the Government’s prison rebuilding programme?

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  11. The Minister for Prisons, Probation and Reducing Reoffending (Catherine McKinnell)Labour

    We are making good progress. Around 3,300 places out of our target of 14,000 have been delivered since we took office, including a 170-place refurbished wing at HMP Norwich, which opened in June this year, bringing these places into the 21st century. We are also bringing forward £110 million from existing budgets to deliver additional prison places even faster. We are determined to clean up the mess that the previous Government left us and to build a criminal justice system that is fit for today.

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  12. Sarah Pochin (Runcorn and Helsby) (Reform)Reform UK

    T4. Two months ago, I wrote to the Secretary of State asking him to confirm how many prisoners will be released under the Government’s early release scheme untagged because they cited homelessness or mental health issues. I got a reply from his Minister saying that she could not answer the question because the scheme did not start till 1 October, but her letter was dated 4 November—five weeks later. Will Secretary of State tell me today how many have been released early untagged for those reasons?

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  13. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    The hon. Lady will have heard me say two things in this session: first, that there is for the first time a presumption on tagging and, secondly, that we will release full data so that Parliament can scrutinise it in the normal way. I suggest that she waits for that release.

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  14. Bell Ribeiro-Addy (Clapham and Brixton Hill) (Lab)Labour

    T3. In response to written questions last month, Ministers claimed that Serco has met every single key performance indicator since March, yet the Department’s figures from 30 September show that 15% of those with a monitoring order had no tag fitted, and that 1,309 had been out of contact for 28 days or more. The Department will not disclose what penalties Serco has paid, but has agreed £48 million in extra payments. With up to 22,000 more people due to be tagged next year, how is that value for money? When will the Department do away with its poorer performing contractors?

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  15. Catherine McKinnellLabour

    As my hon. Friend will know, the contract with Serco was entered into by the previous Government. Serco’s KPI measures include whether installation visits take place within contractual timescales, but being recorded without a tag does not necessarily indicate failure; it may be that the individual has returned to prison, or they may still remain within the installation window. That is why we regularly publish the statistics to ensure that they accurately reflect the situation. I will take her other points on board.

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  16. Luke Taylor (Sutton and Cheam) (LD)Liberal Democrat

    T5. We were all disgusted by the shocking details of the Russell Brand court case this week, and we had all seen reporting of the famous man who lost his appeal to remain anonymous, who was today named as David Walliams. One of the most common lawfare tactics used to shut down investigations and block accountability are SLAPP—strategic lawsuit against public participation—orders, which have a chilling effect on media scrutiny and faith in the legal process overall. Will the Minister therefore confirm whether the Government plan to finally listen to the Lib Dems and introduce a comprehensive anti-SLAPP law to stop this harmful practice?

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  17. Mr SpeakerSpeaker

    Order. The last question was very long. This is topicals. I have to get all colleagues in, and I am struggling. To help me get through, the questions have to be short, as do the responses from Front Benchers.

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  18. The Minister for Courts and Legal Services (Sarah Sackman)Labour

    The Government recognise the profound financial and psychological impact that SLAPPs have on individuals, and their corrosive effect on our democracy and public discourse. As the hon. Gentleman will know, we commenced the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Act 2023, and we remain committed to introducing legislation. I recently met the right hon. Member for Maldon (Sir John Whittingdale), and am grateful to him for the constructive discussions that we are having. I will set out the Government’s position on Second Reading of his private Member’s Bill on 27 November.

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  19. Catherine Fookes (Monmouthshire) (Lab)Labour

    T6. Twenty-year-old Sophie Brimble was killed when a car driven by her boyfriend crashed into a lamp post at three times the speed limit. I applaud her family, who have worked incredibly hard through their grief, and have put out a petition, which has been signed by more than 100,000 people, to change the law on “unfit to plead”. The driver was deemed unfit to plead at the time because of his injuries; earlier this year, a judge gave him an absolute discharge, deeming him unfit to stand trial again. Will the Minister meet me and the family, and update me on the progress towards changing the law?

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  20. Sarah SackmanLabour

    I would be glad to meet my hon. Friend to discuss Sophie’s tragic case. The Government agree that the law and procedure on unfitness to plead require updating. We are actively considering how best to take forward the Law Commission’s proposed changes, including modernising the legal test for unfitness to plead and the issue of whether courts should have a broader, more flexible range of disposals when dealing with such cases.

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  21. Tom Gordon (Harrogate and Knaresborough) (LD)Liberal Democrat

    T7. Last week the Government announced their Visitor Levy (England) Bill, which will create a number of new offences, including a 14-year maximum prison sentence for deliberate evasion of a tourist tax, all while the Government are still releasing prisoners early. Has the Department carried out a justice impact test, and when will the impact assessments be published? What assessment has the Department made of the additional prison spaces that would be needed?

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  22. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    The hon. Gentleman will not be surprised to hear that when any decision is taken across Government, it is done in the round and we have those conversations with our colleagues in other Departments. Giving local leaders the power to make that decision, if they want it, is important and, of course, if people do not follow it, there ought to be sanctions.

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  23. Tracy Gilbert (Edinburgh North and Leith) (Lab)Labour

    T8. The number of C51 parental order applications has more than doubled in the past decade, and with more applications involving international surrogacy arrangements, the complexity of these cases has increased. Can the Minister confirm whether His Majesty’s Courts and Tribunals Service has raised concerns with the Department on these increased numbers, and will the Minister meet me and campaigners to discuss the growing concerns?

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  24. The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Jake Richards)Labour

    These applications and surrogacy issues raise complex issues around ethics, law and medicine. We have not had those concerns raised by HMCTS, but I am happy to meet my hon. Friend and campaigners to discuss it in more detail.

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  25. Vikki Slade (Mid Dorset and North Poole) (LD)Liberal Democrat

    Last week the Justice Committee heard harrowing testimony about the tragic deaths of 14-year-old Ruth Szymankiewicz, 15-year-old Gabriel Santer and 23-year-old Matthew Caseby from their parents. These are all utterly tragic cases, but only one of them led to a prevention of future deaths case, and even then there is no enforcement of them. Will the Minister commit to reviewing the situation so that when the words “lessons learned” are said, families actually believe them?

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  26. The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Alex Davies-Jones)Labour

    I welcome this question and the important point raised by the hon. Lady. I welcome the work that the Justice Committee is doing in this space to look at the prevention of future deaths reports to see what more we can do to ensure they are enforceable, responded to and acted upon. The Government are determined to ensure accountability at all levels on prevention of future deaths reports, and I look forward to laying out my position to the Committee soon.

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  27. Chris Vince (Harlow) (Lab/Co-op)Labour (Co-op)

    T9. Probation officers like those who work at Harlow probation office do crucial work rehabilitating those who are released from prison and ensuring that our communities are safe. What is the Minister doing to ensure that we recruit more probation officers and to ensure that they have the skills needed to do that vital work?

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  28. Catherine McKinnellLabour

    I pay tribute to our hard-working and dedicated probation staff, including those who bravely intervened yesterday at Manchester magistrates court to tackle an individual with a knife. Probation staff perform vital work in our communities, we owe them a debt of gratitude, and we need more to come and join the team. While we continue to exceed our recruitment targets with almost 1,400 recruited last year and a target of 1,300 in 2026-27, my message is, “Come and join this important service to protect the public and keep communities safe.”

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  29. David Davis (Goole and Pocklington) (Con)Conservative

    After the sexual predator Russell Brand was convicted last week, the newspapers reported on an injunction brought by him and Jemima Goldsmith against Miss Berki, aimed at stopping antisemitic harassment by Miss Berki. It included a clause, however, that suppressed free speech. Jemima Goldsmith tried to relax that in December, and Brand stopped her. He is still stopping her from doing that. She is a victim of his violence. Can the Secretary of State look at how a convicted criminal can suppress free speech and continue to embarrass his victims?

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  30. Alex Davies-JonesLabour

    I want to place on the record my thanks to all the victims of Russell Brand for speaking out so bravely, some of them at huge personal cost as well—that is important for this House to recognise. The right hon. Gentleman is right to raise the issue of super-injunctions, injunctions and SLAPPs, as we have previously heard, being used by powerful perpetrators to hide their abuse in plain sight. I am keen to work with him and anyone else in this House to ensure that these are not abused or taken for granted. He will know, however, that some of these injunctions are independently assessed; it is not for the Government to comment on them. However, I am clear that any action we can take to prevent violence against women and girls should be taken.

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  31. Connor Naismith (Crewe and Nantwich) (Lab)Labour

    T10. Many victims of domestic abuse are unfortunately still falling through the cracks of our justice system as a result of capital means-testing of legal aid. Will the Justice Secretary look to move forward with the recommendation of the Domestic Abuse Commissioner to remove capital means-testing for all victims of domestic abuse going through family court proceedings?

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  32. Sarah SackmanLabour

    I understand that my hon. Friend is due to meet the Secretary of State to discuss this very issue. It is vital that we support domestic abuse victims with legal aid through the court process. We have already taken steps to extend the equity disregard in the legal aid means test, which means that £100,000-worth of the value of a victim’s home is not considered as part of that eligibility test. It is also the case that the Legal Aid Agency can discount the value of capital that cannot realistically be accessed because of that very abuse. I look forward to discussing this matter with him further.

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  33. Sir John Hayes (South Holland and The Deepings) (Con)Conservative

    There is a close association between domestic violence and animal cruelty. My constituent Annette Bramley’s daughter Holly was murdered by a wicked husband. The Government are working on this, but may I ask them to meet me, Annette and others to look at what further steps can be taken to establish that link and do something about it?

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  34. Alex Davies-JonesLabour

    I thank the right hon. Gentleman for raising this. Along with my good friend the Member for Newport West and Islwyn (Ruth Jones), I have been looking at what more we can do here. He is right that there is a correlation between animal abuse and domestic abuse, and abuse of individuals in general, and I would happily meet him to see what more we can do to tackle this.

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  35. Henry Tufnell (Mid and South Pembrokeshire) (Lab)Labour

    Probation services play a vital role in protecting the public, reducing reoffending and supporting rehabilitation. As the UK and Welsh Governments review probation governance in Wales, can the Lord Chancellor update the House on how he is working with the Welsh Government to better integrate probation with devolved services, to strengthen public safety in communities such as mine in Pembrokeshire?

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  36. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    I met with the Welsh Government yesterday, and we discussed probation. My strong view is that if we are to get the best outcomes for individuals when they leave prison, we need those local services. That might be probation services in this case, but it is also about local authority services, health services and education, to get the best outcomes in exactly the spirit my hon. Friend talks about.

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  37. Ayoub Khan (Birmingham Perry Barr) (Ind)Independent

    Birmingham and Solihull coroner’s service is still not meeting the expectations of its residents. Will the Minister meet me to see how we could improve the service, which is impacting so many communities?

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  38. Alex Davies-JonesLabour

    I am aware of issues with coronial services across England and Wales. I regularly meet the chief coroner to discuss this and what more we can do to reduce the backlog. Our coroners perform vital services in their communities, and I want to reassure the hon. Member that the Government are committed to reducing this backlog and giving coroners the support and guidance they need to carry out their vital work.

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  39. Andrew Ranger (Wrexham) (Lab)Labour

    My constituent Tom Hughes, the owner of Red Dragon’s Vault in Wrexham, has repeatedly had his shop targeted by antisocial behaviour, with objects thrown at the window and customers being subjected to abuse. Rather than responding with anger, he is responding with hope, working with local youth organisations to support young people and provide them with more activities and opportunities. Does the Minister agree that while we must be tough on those committing antisocial behaviour, we must also be tough on its causes, such as the lack of youth opportunity?

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  40. Jake RichardsLabour

    I am old enough, just, to remember a former Labour Prime Minister talk about being tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. That informs our approach to youth justice. We set it out in the White Paper published earlier this year, and we will be making progress on that issue in due course.

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  41. Dr Neil Shastri-Hurst (Solihull West and Shirley) (Con)Conservative

    Mr Speaker, ask any legal practitioner and they will tell you about the parlous state of our court estate. Can the Minister set out the estimated number of sitting days that have been lost since the last election as a result of emergency repairs across the HMCTS estate?

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  42. Sarah SackmanLabour

    As the hon. Member will know, we have uncapped the number of sitting days, and it is very rare for sitting days to be lost due to disrepair. But he is absolutely right: the crumbling courts that we inherited were a symbol of a justice system very much degraded by the Conservatives. I am glad that we are reinvesting £287 million in the capital budget, with brand new courts in Blackpool, London and Reading, and we are starting to see our justice system restored to health.

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  43. Janet Daby (Lewisham East) (Lab)Labour

    It is not right that children who were once in foster care, children’s homes or semi-independent living accommodation find themselves at the hands of the criminal justice system. In fact, over 50% of children in prison were once being cared for by the local authority. What are the Government doing to identify care leavers and care-experienced people in prison, and how are they working to reduce their reoffending and offending in the first place?

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  44. Jake RichardsLabour

    My hon. Friend has raised this issue consistently and has done some really important work on it, both from the Back Benches and in government. In the next few weeks we will publish a protocol on exactly this issue. Before we do so, I should meet her to discuss it in more detail, and I will do so.

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  45. Mr Lee Dillon (Newbury) (LD)Liberal Democrat

    Last year the British Horse Society recorded nearly 3,000 road incidents involving horses. However, because horses are classed as property, judges and courts cannot reflect the emotional distress that horse riders have when they lose their animal. Will the Secretary of State meet me to discuss how we can change the law to better reflect the needs of victims?

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  46. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    The hon. Member raises a really important issue. I have taken part in the Dead Slow campaign with the British Horse Society on two occasions. We are a nation of animal lovers, and I do not think that people would see things quite in the spirit that the law always does, so I am interested in having a conversation with him and the BHS to see what might be done.

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  47. Sarah Smith (Hyndburn) (Lab)Labour

    I strongly welcome the steps that this Government are taking to help young people who lack the capacity to access their child trust funds. Can the Minister outline how many people he thinks that will benefit? What value will that have to families?

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  48. Jake RichardsLabour

    We simply would not have got to this point without the almost constant championing of this cause by my hon. Friend, so I am very grateful to her. We estimate that up to 120,000 families will benefit from the changes that we are bringing about with my hon. Friend the Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury. The average amount is £2,600, which will have a transformative effect for many families—I know that for one family in my constituency it means that they can go on holiday for the first time in three years. This is a really important step that this Labour Government are taking.

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  49. Sir Ashley Fox (Bridgwater) (Con)Conservative

    Victims of crime have asked the Lord Chancellor to publish criminal conviction data by nationality. Will he do so?

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  50. Alex NorrisLabour (Co-op)

    The hon. Gentleman knows that that has been a point of discussion in this place on multiple occasions. We are looking very closely at the data to ensure that we are getting it right. In conjunction with the Home Office, we want the fullest amount of data to be available so that we can have a proper political conversation about what it tells us.

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  51. Perran Moon (Camborne and Redruth) (Ind)Independent

    When 73% of those released from prison with no home to go to go on to reoffend, the system is clearly setting people up to fail. It is vital that we attack the social and economic causes of reoffending and help people to rebuild their lives. What cross-departmental discussions have Ministers had about improving access to social housing, mental health support and drug and alcohol dependency support?

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  52. Catherine McKinnellLabour

    Many discussions are ongoing. Ending rough sleeping and tackling homelessness is a key priority for the Prime Minister, as he has said. Those who are homeless on release from custody have reoffending rates that are nearly double those of people released into accommodation. We are already working on the national plan to end homelessness, but we are working at pace on a cross-Government basis to ensure that we can legislate for a duty to collaborate and that we tackle the scourge that is homelessness both for those leaving prison and re-entering the community and across the board.

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  53. Ben Lake (Ceredigion Preseli) (PC)Plaid Cymru

    Will the Minister meet me to discuss the possible addition of assault in cases of grievous bodily harm to schedule 5 to the Criminal Justice Act 2003? That seems to be the only pathway to justice for a constituent of mine who, despite being the victim of a brutal attack, saw the case against their alleged assailant withdrawn just days before trial because of the erroneous decision of the Crown Prosecution Service not to offer any evidence in support of prosecution.

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  54. Alex Davies-JonesLabour

    I am so sorry to hear of the situation that the hon. Gentleman’s constituent finds themselves in. I would be delighted to meet him to discuss this issue and to see what more we can do to support victims in that situation.

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  55. Deirdre Costigan (Ealing Southall) (Lab)Labour

    I recently visited Central Jamia mosque in Southall Green, where I heard about delays in the coroners courts system. In particular, the lack of post-mortem scanning machines locally means that people need to drive to Oxford, causing further delays. What work is the Minister doing with the Muslim community and other faiths to allow them to bury family members according to their religion?

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  56. Alex Davies-JonesLabour

    I thank my hon. Friend for raising this very important issue. I know that this matter concerns Members across the House and outside this place. I have met representatives from the Muslim and Jewish communities to see what more we can do to help them to bury their loved ones in a timely manner while working with coroners to expedite inquests, and I am happy to work across parties and across faiths to see what more we can do to make that a reality.

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  57. Dr Danny Chambers (Winchester) (LD)Liberal Democrat

    The sentencing of Russell Brand yesterday for his terrible violence against women has had people reflecting on a book he wrote several years ago, in which he said that he repeatedly lured his dog upstairs and kicked it down the stairs again. That is just the latest high-profile example of violence against animals being an indicator of someone who will go on to commit violence against women and children. I know that the Minister cares very much about this issue, so will she meet me and relevant stakeholders and researchers to discuss it?

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  58. Alex Davies-JonesLabour

    I happily extend to the hon. Gentleman the invitation I gave previously to the right hon. Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Sir John Hayes), and the commitment I made to look at what more we can do regarding the correlation between animal abuse and physical abuse.

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  59. Sonia Kumar (Dudley) (Lab)Labour

    Over 60% of people in prison have speech, language or communication needs. Effective rehabilitation must be holistic. To prevent reoffending and provide support, it is paramount that we address not only the offending behaviour, but the underlying communication, health, education and social needs. What steps is my hon. Friend the Minister taking to ensure that access to speech and language therapists and other allied health professionals is available in prison?

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  60. Catherine McKinnellLabour

    My hon. Friend is an avid campaigner, and with her health background, she is well placed to understand the value of the allied health professionals right across our society. That applies to prison in the same way. Obviously, there is a commitment that any person in prison will have the same access to treatment as they would if they were on the outside, which is vital if we are going to achieve the outcomes we want: reducing reoffending by giving people purposeful activity, education opportunities and the ability to gain skills, so that they can lead a more fulfilling life on the outside. I will certainly take away my hon. Friend’s suggestion about what more we can do.

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  61. Brian Leishman (Alloa and Grangemouth) (Lab)Labour

    Earlier today, I heard from the head of the Prisoners’ Education Trust about the chaos and cuts caused by new education contracts. In Scotland, scandalously, all prison education is delivered by a private company owned by a US-based venture capitalist. Surely it is time that we take that service in-house for prisons across the United Kingdom and prioritise rehabilitation, not private sector profits.

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  62. Catherine McKinnellLabour

    My hon. Friend is right that education in prison is vital to rehabilitation; it provides hope for an alternative future, and engagement with education is proven to reduce reoffending by up to nine percentage points. We are determined to modernise the prison education, skills and work system. We want a joined-up system that maximises opportunities to support prisoners to progress. We recognise that there have been challenges with rising costs, and we are working at pace to ensure we deliver an education system that works for all.

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Source: UK Parliament Hansard API. Debate ID: 5434241.