Baroness Noakes (Con)

My Lords, I have Amendment 4 in this group. This concerns mandation, which we will debate more extensively later this week in connection with defined contribution schemes. Amendment 4 seeks to ensure that mandation cannot apply to the LGPS. This amendment should be easy for the Government to accept. This mandation amendment, unlike the ones we shall debate on Thursday, reflects what the Government have said is their policy. Clause 1 gives the Government very extensive powers to tell local government pension funds what they may or may not do in relation to asset pool companies and scheme managers. Clause 2 says that any Clause 1 regulations must—not may— “make provision about the management of the funds and other assets”. As is usual with regulation-making powers, they are unconstrained. While Clause 2 lists some of the things that could be included in the regulations, it contains no restrictions on the use of the power. I have tabled Amendment 4 seeking to ensure that the power cannot be used to tell local government schemes to invest in particular assets, asset classes or locations of investment. I firmly believe that fiduciary duties are paramount and should never be interfered with by the Government, whether in relation to public sector schemes such as the LGPS or private sector ones, which we will debate on Thursday. The noble Lord, Lord Katz, said in Grand Committee on 12 January: “To be absolutely clear … we are not mandating asset pools to invest in certain ways in the LGPS. The power to direct pools is a backstop power. It does not allow government to mandate investment in specific assets or asset classes”.—[Official Report, 12/1/26; col. GC 244.] The issue is not whether the power is a backstop power or whether the Government intend to use it but whether the Bill could be used—by this Government or some future Government—to mandate investments in the LGPS. Clause 2 is clear that regulations under Clause 1 “must make provision about the management of the funds and other assets for which the scheme managers are responsible”. Subsection (2) goes on to require an investment strategy, and subsections (3) and (4) allow the Secretary of State to specify what is in that strategy, including strategic asset allocation. On any ordinary interpretation, this adds up to very considerable power over LGPS investments. In the other place, the Government removed from the original Bill a more explicit power of direction that would have allowed the Secretary of State to direct LGPS investment activities. It was pretty shocking, and the Government sensibly removed it before the Bill arrived in your Lordships’ House. That removal, however, does not mean that the Bill we now have before us could not be used to mandate investments using the powers that remain in Clauses 1 and 2. I hope the Government will agree that certainty is required in this area. My amendment would put matters beyond doubt. If the Government do not accept Amendment 4, I am currently minded to test the opinion of House when it is reached.