Baroness Hayman (CB)

My Lords, I declare my interests as a director of Peers for the Planet and a previous chair of that organisation. In this group of amendments, we address long-term systemic risks and how pension schemes both assess and manage them. All three of the amendments that we are discussing recognise that it is pension savers who will pay the heaviest price if the financially material risks to their savings and standards of living posed by climate change and biodiversity loss are not properly accounted for. I have added my name to Amendment 212, which was just introduced so cogently by the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey. It is important because, as he said, UK pension schemes and savers remain overexposed to the risks of stranded assets from fossil fuels—in particular, coal. New research by the Finance Innovation Lab suggests that UK pension funds have at least £10.5 billion invested in companies that are extracting or burning coal, which could pose significant risks to pension savers. To date, pension schemes have not been required to take mitigating actions, so the sector has not moved quickly enough or at the scale needed to insulate savers from the emerging market and physical risks linked to those very carbon-intensive investments. I also welcome the constructive intentions behind Amendment 218E in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Coffey, and I look forward to hearing her speaking on it later. This amendment seeks to solve a major blind spot in the pension system by equipping trustees with the tools to understand how nature loss may affect asset values, as well as how global efforts to restore nature may reshape markets. I now turn to my cross-party amendment, Amendment 218A. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, and the noble Baronesses, Lady Penn and Lady Griffin of Princethorpe, for their support in adding their names. I am grateful to the Minister and her officials for a useful and interesting meeting ahead of today’s debate, although I hope that she may be a little more optimistic in her response to my amendment today. I am also grateful for the briefings I have received from UKSIF, Unison and ShareAction, and I pay tribute to the Financial Markets Law Committee for both its work on fiduciary duty and its extremely valuable 2024 report. That report highlighted the way in which the gap left in legislation relating to fiduciary duty causes confusion and uncertainty and can result in trustees interpreting duties in overly narrow ways. I do not want to repeat my Second Reading speech, but there is now a widespread acceptance that the current lack of clarity around fiduciary duty is a real problem for pension scheme trustees—for example, in how trustees balance maximising short-term returns, potentially at the expense of considering other material factors over the longer term, which can have real-world implications for members’ interests further down the line. Even the Treasury, in its recently updated Green Book, recommends that the business case for proposals with a lifetime beyond 2040 should now be appraised against warming scenarios of both two degrees and four degrees centigrade, a possibility under which scientists say that the risks to economic growth and financial stability go up and into uncharted territory.