Lord Whitehead (Lab)

The noble Baroness makes a good point in relation to what are, as I have said, a huge number of systems of very different quality and status. Making regulations in respect of those sorts of bodies is very difficult, because they are all mini electricity or gas networks in their own right; indeed, they are mini networks that could fall by the wayside if they are regulated in a way that is not sympathetic to their particular arrangements. Noble Lords can see, I think, that these arrangements do not exactly coincide with what is in the existing gas and electricity sectors, but do try to take account of those particular circumstances. Within that, there is a serious bottom line: these bodies must provide good value for their customers, provide good levels of redress and ensure that they are operating to the best of their capacity. Those are the sorts of things that Ofgem will ensure are looked at and regulated properly, with an eye on the fact that heat networks are not in the same position as electricity and gas networks. That bottom line is there in these regulations and should not be set aside easily. Otherwise, Ofgem will certainly be doing the business of ensuring that those bodies work properly. I think there is nothing further for me to say, other than that I commend these regulations to the Committee. I hope, by the way, that what I have said this afternoon satisfies the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, as far as her question is concerned; if she has any further concerns, I will be happy to write to her.